March 2, 20241 yr comment_4100791 On 29/02/2024 at 15:47, theshootist said: Seen! I was going to call and ask whether the takedown joint was pinned as part of conversion to Sect 2. Unfortunately more of these lovely guns are being spoiled (in my view) in doing this. Yeah is true Very interesting old Remington https://www.southamsauction.co.uk/auction/lot/lot-902---s2-20-bore-remington-model-17-pump-action-3/?lot=467156&so=0&st=&sto=0&au=484&ef=&et=&ic=False&sd=0&pp=96&pn=6&g=1
March 3, 20241 yr comment_4101199 On 02/03/2024 at 16:52, theshootist said: Yes.. the precursor to the Ithaca Model 37 Looking at that one! It’s on the wish list but probably go for silly money!
March 6, 20241 yr comment_4101764 On 29/02/2024 at 15:47, theshootist said: Seen! I was going to call and ask whether the takedown joint was pinned as part of conversion to Sect 2. Unfortunately more of these lovely guns are being spoiled (in my view) in doing this. The takedown function has indeed been pinned.
March 8, 20241 yr comment_4102135 Well I won the Remington M17! Was a bit expensive but bought at the low end of guide price thankfully! Best news is my daughter has said she will pay for it for my birthday pressie as she has no idea what to get me! I love my kids! I'll post again when I pick it up and have had a chance to go over it, nevertheless, one ticked off the list!
March 8, 20241 yr Community Expert comment_4102141 12 minutes ago, impala59 said: Well I won the Remington M17! Was a bit expensive but bought at the low end of guide price thankfully! Best news is my daughter has said she will pay for it for my birthday pressie as she has no idea what to get me! I love my kids! I'll post again when I pick it up and have had a chance to go over it, nevertheless, one ticked off the list! Well done that man and VERY well done that Lady.
March 8, 20241 yr comment_4102203 Happy Shooting with that 17! Anyone fancy another pump club clay shoot?
March 8, 20241 yr comment_4102332 9 hours ago, Scrumbag said: Happy Shooting with that 17! Anyone fancy another pump club clay shoot? sounds like a good idea! only problem (as always) is date and venue to suit as many as possible
March 9, 20241 yr comment_4102532 On 08/03/2024 at 09:08, impala59 said: Well I won the Remington M17! Was a bit expensive but bought at the low end of guide price thankfully! Best news is my daughter has said she will pay for it for my birthday pressie as she has no idea what to get me! I love my kids! I'll post again when I pick it up and have had a chance to go over it, nevertheless, one ticked off the list! That's great news! We should meet up and give it a run! On 08/03/2024 at 12:29, Scrumbag said: Happy Shooting with that 17! Anyone fancy another pump club clay shoot? 100%
March 21, 20241 yr comment_4105159 The Remington M17 a couple of pictures to get started. The parentage to the Ithaca 37 is very obvious, removing the barrel is identical with the early 37’s with the sliding pin to assist rotation. As all who know the venerable 37, the next thing is to remove the stock, so as to release the sideways tension on the trigger plate screw. Problem #1 it would appear that some time in the last 105 years or so someone decided that the butt plate screws were insufficient and glued the butt plate on! So, cautiously working a scalpel around, it’s going to take some time as I don’t want to cause any marks or damage, watch this space!
April 1, 20241 yr comment_4107809 Update on the M17 some good and some not so good. The take down is the same as the M37, always remove the stock first to relieve the back pull on the trigger plate screw, all the internals are removed through the rear of the receiver with very little effort due to the combined design genius of John Moses Browning and John Pederson. JMB actually stated that JP was the best gunsmith of the age! That is some praise! The M17 was apparently the very last firearm that JMB had a hand in designing Aficionados of the Ithaca 37 will recognise much of the innards of the 17 though there are some notable exceptions. Firstly it only has a bottom extractor in common with the earliest 37’s. These early 37’s were later retrofitted with a top extractor to improve extraction with the more powerful 12g cartridges. The 17 being only available in 20g did not seem to suffer in this area. A surprise for me was within the trigger mechanism, the birds head shaped part is a disconnector, not available to Ithaca owners until the late 70’s and then mainly for law enforcement users. It would seem that Ithaca simply left it out and inadvertently created the “slam fire” reputation of the 37! The machine work in the receiver is superb, sharp perfectly square channels as good today as they were over a hundred years ago. Now I have decarbonised and lightly lubricated internally, the gun is a slick piece of machinery. The bad news. On this gun the yoke is fixed to the magazine tube. In rating this as S2, the mag tube has been permanently fixed to the receiver. What this means is that the forend cannot be removed for cleaning or refurbishment. It’s a real pain and in my opinion ruins what is otherwise a wonderful little gun. Not sure where I will go next with that, but thankfully there are no faults in that area. Just frustrating really. the internals, familiar to 37 owners I am sure! The superbly machined receiver, one block of steel that everything fits inside perfectly!
April 21, 20241 yr comment_4112968 I took the M17 clay shooting today with one of its grandchildren, a 1947 Ithaca 16g M37. The M17 shoots like a dream, smooth action and totally reliable, not bad for 104 years old! I was also somewhat (pleasantly) surprised at the range the 20g was taking some clays at. Unfortunately, the 37 broke its slide stop retractor spring during the day, it was a mere 77 years old, so probably a little out of warranty! Nonetheless an enjoyable morning at Hawley shooting ground in Kent. The 37 was treated to a new spring set on my return home (my metric upgrade) although upon inspection, only the straight wire spring that failed seemed to have any weakness and was possibly a sub-standard replacement at some time during its history. All the other (coil springs) have been saved as reference templates. I have yet to check whether the 16g has different tension values to the 12g. I think not as all my metrics fitted and function perfectly. Back to the M17, this is a definite keeper, accurate, very point-able, great for clays, light recoil so my daughters can enjoy their occasional shoots more and a wonderfully light carry for my occasional pigeon shoots. They certainly knew how to build guns at the turn of the last century, Remington, JMB and JP, Thank you!
April 22, 20241 yr Community Expert comment_4112992 Sounds wonderful, I do admire your resolve. Who runs Hawley these days, not been there since the last century. Edited April 22, 20241 yr by TIGHTCHOKE Capitalisation
April 22, 20241 yr comment_4113006 Roland, that's fantastic! Glad running so well. Best wishes, Scrummy
April 22, 20241 yr comment_4113033 3 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Who runs Hawley these days, not been there since the last century. Same people I believe, nice relaxed shoot!
June 6, 20241 yr comment_4122893 Thanks, it’s a S1. I love the look of the old pump actions so I made some wood furniture for mine to give it that trench gun feel. I aspire to own a nice vintage pump one day, such as your model 17.
June 7, 20241 yr comment_4123130 Hello fellow pumpers, due entirely to my failing health my Ithaca M37 Sec1 (with right & left handed safeties)will be for sale at a well known Norfolk Auctioneers sometime in August without reserve. It's in unmolested factory condition and seen very little use and no abuse. Good luck and best wishes Steve
June 14, 20241 yr Community Expert comment_4124673 Hey all! Can I be apart of this Pump Club? I have picked up a Hatsan FieldHunter pump in .410
June 25, 20241 yr comment_4126882 On 07/06/2024 at 17:46, stevethejeep said: Hello fellow pumpers, due entirely to my failing health my Ithaca M37 Sec1 (with right & left handed safeties)will be for sale at a well known Norfolk Auctioneers sometime in August without reserve. It's in unmolested factory condition and seen very little use and no abuse. Good luck and best wishes Steve Why not put it on here with no auction fees? I just checked in to say that I'm enjoying ten years since I bought a new gun for the first time. My Mossy 500 has not missed a beat once, and has taken over as my main gun for everything from pest control, PSG, to clays. The English sxs languish these days, even my beloved Greener...
July 12, 20241 yr comment_4130851 Update I'm informed by Holts that the sealed bid auction takes place on 15/8/24 and my Ithaca M37 is Lot No 5717, being sold without reserve. Good luck one and all.and keep pumping ! Steve
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